Is Michael Bloomberg, Hillary Clinton’s “Stalking Horse”?
Could Hillary Clinton and Michael Bloomberg be working in concert to bleed Republican votes away like Ross Perot did to George Bush Sr.? Few people know that Ross Perot and Bill Clinton were friends and had several closed door meetings at the Gov. Mansion in Arkansas and in Dallas, the home of Ross Perot, prior to the 1992 election.
Could the Mayor of New York (A Liberal who ran as a Republican) be secretly helping out Hillary Clinton by joining the race as an Independent. Sure this would bleed off votes from both the Democrats and the Republicans, but I just can’t help but to recall Arkansas State Trooper Larry Patterson’s account of the meetings and phone calls that took place between his boss Gov. Bill Clinton and Ross Perot.
Beating an incumbent candidate would be difficult - if Clinton could bleed enough votes away from Bush he could win it - although with only 43% of the vote was the result.
Remember that Ross Perot decided to run as a 3rd Party Candidate between Bill Clinton and George Bush Sr. in 1992, then for the 1996 election he stepped in to run against Bill Clinton and Bob Dole.
Read about this odd relationship below.
In an unpredictable 2008 presidential race, the prospect of a viable third-party candidacy - particularly a self-financed bid by billionaire Michael Bloomberg - could be the biggest wild card of all.
Reports that Bloomberg, New York’s Republican mayor, is willing to spend a big chunk of his personal fortune - perhaps as much as $1 billion - on a White House run set off a new round of speculation about his intentions and his possible impact on the November 2008 election.
The speculation was egged on by Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, a conservative Republican and Iraq war opponent who also is considering an independent bid and had dinner with Bloomberg recently.
Hagel openly hinted about joining the mayor on a high-octane, third-party ticket that could reshape the political landscape and jolt the traditional U.S. two-party system.
During two contested presidential elections, Ross Perot presented himself as an independent maverick who disdained the idea of Bill Clinton, the one-time Arkansas governor, holding the Oval Office.
"Electing Bill Clinton president is like making the manager of a Wal-Mart store President of the United States,” Perot exclaimed during the 1992 presidential debate.
In the 1996 race Perot’s comments about Clinton were more honed and nasty. Perot suggested that Bill Clinton was too corrupt to serve as president, and said he couldn’t even be trusted to babysit one’s children.
Perot’s on-again and off-again comments about Bill Clinton don’t seem to square for retired Arkansas State Trooper Larry Patterson.
Patterson offers new insight into Bill Clinton’s relationship with the billionaire Dallas businessman in More than Sex: the Secrets of Bill & Hillary Clinton Revealed! - A two-hour audiocassette tape set published by NewsMax.com.
In More than Sex, Patterson explodes the myth that Perot and Clinton were political foes. Patterson says, in fact, Clinton and Perot had been long-time friends well before the 1992 campaign. Patterson said the two had numerous meetings and calls over a period of several years. This relationship continued well into the 1992 presidential campaign, the trooper said.
Patterson reports that on numerous occasions the two met in Dallas when Bill Clinton traveled through the city while transiting to or from Little Rock. The pair usually had lunch or dinner together. Clinton would also meet with Perot’s son, Ross Jr.
During this period before the 1992 campaign, Patterson explained that he really didn’t know who Perot was other than Clinton’s description of him as a wealthy individual who was politically connected.
Perot became a national celebrity after appearing on the Larry King Show in early 1992, declaring his intention to run as a third party candidate.
Patterson said when he learned of Perot’s decision to enter the 1992 race, he was surprised.
"It seems strange to me that Mr. Perot and Bill Clinton has this close relationship and that they’re running for the same office. Yes, that strikes me quite strange,” Patterson said.
Perot abruptly withdrew from the race by the summer of 1992 during the Democratic convention, saying publicly that the Democratic party had been revitalized.
Patterson reveals that after winning the Democratic convention in New York that summer, contacts between Clinton and Perot increased dramatically.
"Up until [Bill Clinton] was elected, we still made all his telephone calls, received all incoming calls to the mansion,” Patterson said.
Patterson estimates their were as many as a dozen calls between the two during the period after Perot had withdrawn from the race.
By October, Perot had changed his mind and again decided to enter the presidential race.
Republicans have criticized Perot, believing that his conservative platform appealed to potential Republican and swing voters and effectively gave the election to Bill Clinton. Critics of Perot have also noted that his criticisms of Clinton usually surface only around election time, and have effectively divided the anti-Clinton vote.
Bill Clinton won the presidency in 1992 and 1996. In neither case did he win a majority of votes cast, receiving only 43 percent of the vote in ’92 and 49 percent in ’96.
Patterson has no idea what transpired between Clinton and Perot during their meetings and calls. Still, he thinks the relationship between the two deserves more scrutiny.
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Perot also called for Clinton to be impeached during the Lewinsky affair, and said Clinton had ‘mental problems’. Later, Perot endorsed George W Bush for President.In 1992, it was also the perception among a lot of people that Perot’s presence in the race took votes away from Clinton, not Bush, since when Perot dropped out of the race, Clinton’s poll numbers went up, and this is one reason why Bush negotiated for Perot to be in the debates.Perot met with a lot of political figures, he was involved in politics before his run, which is something that a lot of people don’t realize or recognize. He helped push through a lot of education reform in Texas, by being participating in commissions through appointment. It wouldn’t be surprising if he had constant contact with the Bush family as well, inf act I’m sure he did.In any case, there are a lot of sides to this, and people, driven by political spin have sought to make the case one-way.There isn’t even material evidence at all that Perot swung the election in 1992, certainly not by the time of the end of the election. Exit polls show that Perot took votes evenly from both candidates. But even if you don’t trust exit polls, you would have to guess about 80% of Perot voters would have gone to Bush, while it was just a fact of that election that Perot appealed to a broad center of people who gave up on the two parties, called the "radical middle". In fact, this group of voters, so called swing-voters, were referred to as "Perot voters" for years. That Perot appealed to swing voters was no question.Whether Perot’s earlier attacks on Bush effected the dynamic of the race is a legitimate topic, but not something that can be measured, and it doesn’t mean his criticism of Bush was illegitimate.The whole conspiracy-like idea that Perot was helping Clinton, was developed as a way to cope what is purely political spin: that Perot caused Bush to lose.There is no way to back up that idea, but Republicans want a scape-goat for the election of Clinton.
Great Points! You defiantly have a valid argument. I was just submitting what was reported by the State Trooper. Clinton is/was a brilliant politician and maybe has fallen into a boogie man like the left thinks Karl Rove is behind every event!Thanks for your comments - stop by every now and then!
if we elect hilary will we have more oaklahoma cities,we know the clitans were invoved or maybe she can kill more christians like at waco or the first wtc bombing that #@#$%^ and her looser husband billderberg she is a murderer communist president hilary? i think she should hang by the neck until she is dead dead dead that trader spy.
Ron - tell me how you really feel
holary clinton is the devil she has the blood of oaklahoma ciy waco wtc bombing no1 the cole and who knows what else oh ya vince foster your looking at the devil herself. with legs like TREE TRUNKS.
I think this election will have a low voter turnout.
if hilary is president ,can we look forward to another waco,oaklahoma city,or maybe another cole ? Bill said it helped him get reelected if it works for bill itll be good for the beast . you can spot the real hilary she has tree trunks for legs GOD she is so gross she makes me wanto barf honestly.that is a sick couple of devils the efing clintons.
Has any one considered the possibility that Hillary may ask Bloomberg to be her running mate? I think it is possible and worrisome. Thoughts???
I’ve read a lot about Hillary wanting Tom Vilsack as her V.P.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/30/106808.aspx
Not sure HOW two candidates from New York would do anything for Hillary. It’ wouldn’t help her in the South - not that she will win the south.
I just don’t see the attraction to Bloomberg - he is a socialist liberal who ran as a Republican on the coat tails of Rudy - he has governed as a liberal.
I suppose the media could paint him as a conservative and she could pretend to have reached across the political isle.
I suspect the story about Bloomberg running as a 3rd party died off because he would have taken more votes from Hillary - in the "middle"
I’m thinking this is the reason he has not pursued this 3rd party quest - after all he is friends with Hillary.